A former National Security Council financial officer has charged that she witnessed “improper” handling of CIA and FBI files on prominent Reagan and Bush administration aides by members of the Clinton administration in 1993 and 1994, adding new fuel to the scandal now known as “Filegate.”
Deborah Perroy, who was employed at the White House from 1988 until September 1993, said in a sworn statement to Judicial Watch, a Washington-based legal watchdog group currently involved in a number of lawsuits with the Clinton administration, that Robert Manzanares and Marcia Dimel examined top secret personnel background files in the fall of 1993.
Perroy charged that shortly before Manzanares was “slotted to leave the NSC for a foreign post,” she surprised him and his assistant, Dimel, looking through the secret files, “which included FBI/CIA file information,” in Room 397 on the third floor of the Old Executive Office Building. At the time, Perroy said, the office belonged to the CIA liaison to the NSC.
“The files were normally kept in the safe of the CIA liaison’s office and were intended to be used by the CIA liaison to evaluate the suitability for security clearances of the White House staffers,” she said.
“As part of my duties and responsibilities, I was charged with helping run the offices associated with the White House Situation Support Staff” as the “financial management officer,” Perroy said in her statement. Her duties included “managing contracts, the physical plant of the White House Situation Room and the NSC, the maintenance of (Situation Support Staff) and NSC personnel, and other files/rosters and other important matters,” she said.
When she came upon Manzanares and Dimel, Perroy said, “the safe where the files were kept was open, Manzanares was pulling files out of the safe, looking through them and handing them to Dimel. They were also making some sort of list,” she said.
Perroy stated that she was aware that the files contained copies of the FBI background reports and other FBI information on individuals who worked in the NSC and the West Wing of the White House in the Reagan, Bush and possibly Carter administrations. The reports, she said, included “many individuals who no longer required access to the Clinton White House or security clearances during that time.”
Perroy said the safe held “FBI file information on virtually every top political and NSC aide to presidents Reagan and Bush.” She added, “For instance, I knew that a file of Colonel Oliver North, Admiral John Poindexter and other prior administration officials” had been kept there.
The former financial manager said at one time she had also requested the CIA liaison permit her to see her own file but was told she could not. “So, I find it highly improper that Mr. Manzanares and Ms. Dimel, a ‘secretary,’ could have access to my file, but not me,” she stated.
Perroy said when she “came upon” Manzanares and Dimel searching through the safe it was “after normal working hours…They clearly reacted as if they did not expect me and had been caught doing something improper.” She said it was “common knowledge” that the CIA liaison’s office was “off limits” and “none of us, though we had combinations to all the safes in the suite, had the combination to the CIA liaison’s safe.”
Shortly before she discovered the two Clinton officials in the office, however, Perroy said Manzanares “had requested all of the combinations to everyone’s safes.”
“I recall the CIA liaison’s concern that this had never been done during previous administrations,” she said, but nonetheless “all combinations were turned in to Ms. Dimel and a list was kept in Mr. Manzanares’ safe.”
Perroy also supported earlier charges that Filegate figure Craig Livingstone was indeed hired by first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton, and alleged that Livingstone had “several meetings” with Manzanares.
“It was widely known at the Clinton White House that Hillary Clinton ‘was running things’ and was responsible for the hiring of political staff such as Livingstone,” she said. “Livingstone was really ‘working for Mrs. Clinton’ as far as everyone knew and everyone dropped everything to accommodate Mr. Livingstone’s requests.”
Perroy maintained that there was “no legitimate reason” for Manzanares and Dimel to have been in the CIA liaison’s office, “let alone accessing the files I witnessed them perusing.” She stated that the incident caused her “great concern and stress, together with the appointment of the new director of NSC administration (Manzanares),” which “precipitated” her resignation from the Clinton White House “shortly thereafter.”
After she resigned, however, Perroy stated that she was telephoned “several times a day” by Col. David Harrington, director of the White House Situation Support Staff, a position responsible “directly” to the director of administration of the Clinton White House. She said Harrington “implored” her to “come back to work there and complete end of year and next year budget submissions.”
She refused, and was summarily threatened by the Clinton White House.
According to Perroy’s statement, the administration “threatened to come after me with false charges and allegations in order to smear my good name,” a tactic alleged by other former White House officials. She said she informed the White House she would sue “if they did something so egregious and that I would go public with information about what I believe to be improper activities I witnessed.”
In March 1994, after threatening action, Perroy said she learned that her FBI file had been requested by the White House Office of Personnel and Security, “nearly six months after I left and no longer required access to the White House.” To support her claim, Perroy provided a copy of a White House memo to the FBI and CIA liaison, dated Sept. 9, 1993, from former White House Counsel Bernard W. Nussbaum. The document – a copy of which was provided to WorldNetDaily – indicated that the White House was seeking a copy of a previous report on Perroy because she was ostensibly being considered for “access.” The subject of the request was titled, “FBI Investigations.”
The document indicated that the White House had initially received her file Oct. 7, 1993, but requested another copy March 17, 1994.
“The White House requested my file again in March after I had threatened to sue them,” Perroy stated.
“Based on my experience working for the Clinton administration, I believe that my FBI file was obtained and repeatedly sought in part because of fear that I would divulge information about improper activities I witnessed at the Clinton White House,” said Perroy. She added that she believed the administration wanted her file because “if I did go public,” which she had already threatened to do if they began a smear campaign against her, “confidential information about me from my FBI file could be used against me.”
Perroy stated that she decided to come forward now after learning her file had been “compromised by the Clinton administration.” She said her decision to divulge the information was also based on “fear of retaliation by the Clinton White House, President Clinton, Hillary Clinton and their agents.”
Larry Klayman, chairman and founder of Judicial Watch, told WorldNetDaily, “This is further evidence that Filegate actually occurred.” The organization has maintained that Filegate is not a dead issue, due to accumulating evidence suggesting the White House was deeply involved in the scandal.
Tom Fitton, president of that organization, added that Perroy’s statement “breaks wide open the Filegate scandal.”
The White House could not be reached for comment over the weekend.