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What does Congress think about birth certificate?
Posted By -NO AUTHOR- On 10/08/2009 @ 8:59 pm In Front Page | Comments Disabled
Activists have confronted Republican members of Congress, asking them whether they believe Barack Obama is eligible to be president, revealing a good number who wanted to avoid answering, and several who bluntly said questions on the issue remain unanswered.
The video has been posted on YouTube, but the embedding feature has been disabled.
It was posted by an organization called FireDogLake, whose reporter argues for the validity of the “Certification of Live Birth” online image posted by the Obama campaign on the Internet.
He also describes those who doubt the documentation presented by Obama’s campaign as crazy.
He found Rep. Nathan Deal, R-Ga., saying, “I think the best way to do it is produce the birth certificate and let that be the end of it.”
U.S. Rep. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., added, “What I don’t know is why the president cannot produce a birth certificate. I don’t know anyone else who can’t produce one. I think that’s a legitimate question.”
“Why can’t you call people on your side nuts,” the reporter asks one congressman who says the issue isn’t worth talking about.
Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind., said, “I’m willing to stipulate he’s from Hawaii. I just don’t know where he’s coming from on health care.”
The same group also posted an earlier video, apparently done several months ago, asking the same question:
While the reporter was interviewing one congressman, a bystander shouted, “He was born in Mombasa, Kenya.”
WND founder and editor Joseph Farah just this week took to task Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., who said she has no reason to doubt Obama’s eligibility.
“On what basis does she draw such a conclusion? He simply hasn’t provided any documented evidence to support his claim to be a ‘natural born citizen.’ All we have are his autobiography and a ‘certification of live birth’ that simply could never prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he is eligible.”
WND also reported this week when former Republican House majority leader Tom DeLay said he has “no idea” whether Barack Obama is constitutionally eligible to serve as president because he refuses to show his birth certificate to the American people.
In answer to a question from Newsweek about statements he previously made with regard to Obama’s eligibility, he stated: “What I said was, to answer a question from Chris Matthews, I said: ‘Why wouldn’t the president of the United States show the American people his birth certificate?’ You have to show a birth certificate to play little league baseball. It’s a question that should be answered. It’s in the Constitution that you have to be a natural-born citizen of the United States to be president.”
Asked whether be believed Obama was a citizen, DeLay responded: “I have no idea.”
U.S. Rep. Trent Franks, R-Ariz., who says he believes Obama was born in the U.S., also reports he thinks the president is trying to hide something:
“I believe he’s a natural born citizen of the United States. Therefore, even if he acts un-American and seems to go against American interests, he’s still an American-born citizen,” he said. “All that being said, probably Barack Obama could solve this problem and make the birthers back off by simply showing … his long form birth certificate.”
Because that isn’t happening, “There’s some other issue there.”
“I don’t know what it is that he doesn’t want people to see the birth certificate. I don’t think it has to do with his natural-born citizenship,” Franks continued. “He’s spent an awful lot of money to keep people from seeing the birth certificate. … I think it has to do with something else.”
Rep. Bill Posey, R-Ga., has introduced a measure in Congress that would require future presidential candidates to document their eligibility, and about a dozen other members of Congress have signed on as co-sponsors.
WND reported just this week when U.S. District Judge David Carter issued a final schedule of deadlines for progress in the California lawsuit challenging Obama’s eligibility.
The ruling from Carter cited his hearing Monday on the government’s motion to dismiss, explaining, “Argument by counsel. Motion taken under submission.”
Then the judge continued, “On September 8, 2009, the court previously set tentative case management dates. The court now orders those dates be made final.”
The order listed a motion for summary judgment hearing Dec. 7 at 8:30 a.m., with a time frame to file the motion Nov. 16, and opposition required by Nov. 26.
The final pretrial conference is scheduled Jan. 11, 2010, while the jury trial is Jan. 26, 2010.
Lawyers representing Obama in the case claim “no single federal district court has the power to declare that a sitting president is not fit or qualified to occupy the office, and is, therefore, not a legitimate president.”
The attorneys have argued the election process and Constitution allow only Congress to examine the credentials of a presidential candidate, and in any event, that opportunity is long gone.
They have argued, “Plaintiffs simply are not the proper parties to challenge President Obama’s qualifications or fitness for office and this court is not the proper forum to decide this issue.”
The plaintiffs, however, have argued on behalf of their “real, tangible injuries” from Obama’s placement in the White House. If he is not eligible, “they have been denied a free and fair election.”
They have suggested the simplest resolution is to put Obama, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other government officials under oath and question them about Obama’s birth and birth records.
They also have indicated plans to ask, if given permission by the court, for copies of Hawaiian records regarding Obama’s birth, Washington state records regarding him and his mother, his Harvard Law School records, passport records and a long list of other documents.
The plaintiffs have requested immediate access to Obama’s records, such as his original long-form birth certificate and his Occidental College records. The plaintiffs’ suspicion is that those records would undermine the president’s statements that he is a “natural born” citizen, which could disqualify him. For example, an original birth certificate could indicate it was a “delayed” filing, which could open the door for a birth location outside the United States.
Likewise, the Occidental College records could be significant if Obama attended on a program for foreign students or represented himself as a foreign student at the time.
WND has reported on dozens of legal challenges to Obama’s status as a “natural born citizen.” The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states, “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.”
Some of the lawsuits question whether he was actually born in Hawaii, as he insists. If he was born out of the country, Obama’s American mother, the suits contend, was too young at the time of his birth to confer American citizenship to her son under the law at the time.
Other challenges have focused on Obama’s citizenship through his father, a Kenyan subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of his birth, thus making him a dual citizen. The cases contend the framers of the Constitution excluded dual citizens from qualifying as natural born.
Complicating the situation is Obama’s decision to spend sums exceeding $1 million to avoid releasing an original long-form state birth certificate that would put to rest the questions.
WND also has reported that among the documentation not yet available for Obama includes his kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records and his adoption records.
Because of the dearth of information about Obama’s eligibility, WND founder Joseph Farah has launched a campaign to raise contributions to post billboards asking a simple question: “Where’s the birth certificate?”
“Where’s The Birth Certificate?” billboard at the Mandalay Bay resort on the Las Vegas Strip
The campaign followed a petition that has collected more than 475,000 signatures demanding proof of his eligibility, the availability of yard signs raising the question and the production of permanent, detachable magnetic bumper stickers asking the question.
The “certification of live birth” posted online and widely touted as “Obama’s birth certificate” does not in any way prove he was born in Hawaii, since the same “short-form” document is easily obtainable for children not born in Hawaii. The true “long-form” birth certificate – which includes information such as the name of the birth hospital and attending physician – is the only document that can prove Obama was born in Hawaii, but to date he has not permitted its release for public or press scrutiny.
Oddly, though congressional hearings were held to determine whether Sen. John McCain was constitutionally eligible to be president as a “natural born citizen,” no controlling legal authority ever sought to verify Obama’s claim to a Hawaiian birth.
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