Neil Abercrombie and Mike Evans
Radio personality Mike Evans, who says he was mistaken when he told a radio station that Gov. Neil Abercrombie said there is no birth certificate in Hawaii for Barack Obama, now says he’s going to be grilling the governor on the issue, if he can get hold of him.
WND reported earlier this week when Evans said in an interview with 92 KQRS Morning Show in Minneapolis, “Yesterday, talking to Neil’s office, Neil says that he’s searched everywhere using his powers as governor at the Kapi’olani Women’s and Children’s Hospital and Queens Hospital, the only places where kids were born in Hawaii back when Barack was born and there is no Barack Obama birth certificate in Hawaii – absolutely no proof at all that he was born in Hawaii.”
At the time Evans, a long-time Hawaii resident, explained that Abercrombie, whom Evans has known for decades, gave up his search for Obama’s nativity records because the governor was unable to find in Hawaii’s vital records Obama’s long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate.
His comments are here:
After WND’s report, however, Evans backtracked. To FoxNews, he said, “Only this I can … tell you is 100 percent fact: that Neil never told me there was no birth certificate. I never talked to him.”
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“I was on 34 radio stations that morning. That was the only station where I said, instead of saying ‘the hospital said there’s no birth certificate’ I misspoke and said Neil said that,” Evans told Fox. “I misspoke and I apologize for that. I apologize to Neil.”
However, Evans claim to get information from Abercrombie also was made on 945 KOOL FM radio in Phoenix, where a podcast reveals Evans saying, “Yesterday I talked to Neil … said he has searched everywhere using his power as governor … there is no Barack Obama birth certificate.”
“I asked what does that mean,” Evans says. “He says it could be a big controversy when the election takes place.”
Further, in a radio interview with 590 KLBJ in Austin, Evans also stated that he had talked to Abercrombie.
“Former United States congressman from Hawaii Neil Abercrombie has been a friend of mine for decades. When I spent time with Neil during the Obama inauguration in Washington, D.C., Neil told me that he was going to run for governor of Hawaii. Neil also told me when he was in college in Hawaii he was a friend of Obama’s dad… and he remembered Barack, he called him Barry, when he was a kid. He’s actually a very, very good friend of the president.
“Neil promised that when he became governor he was going to cut through all the red tape and get Obama’s birth certificate and once and for all and end the stupid controversy,” Evans said.
“Yesterday I talked to Neil. Said that he searched everywhere using all of his power as governor. Looked at Kapi’olani Womens Childrens Hospital and Queens Medical Center where children were born back in that day. And he said, ‘Mike, there is no Barack Obama birth certificate,’” Evans said.
The KLBJ audio of the conversation starts about seven minutes into the podcast:
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Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie
Evans was asked on the Peter Boyles show on Denver’s KHOW 630 AM radio station yesterday about the conflict in his statements. He eventually promised that he would try to reach his friend and find out the true story about Abercrombie’s hunt for Obama’s birth certificate.
Also at the microphone there was Jerome Corsi, author of the soon-to-be-released “Where’s the Birth Certificate? The Case That Barack Obama Is Not Eligible to Be President.”
On the program, Evans said, “I said I talked to Neil’s office. I didn’t say I talked to Neil.”
He continued, “I was never able to get hold of the governor.”
Peter Boyles’ interview with Evans and Corsi:
Evans explained he was trying to reach Abercrombie following publication of a story in which a former Hawaii election official signed an affidavit that he was told there was no Obama birth certificate in Hawaii.
“I was calling Neil to see what he thought about that. I never got through to him,” he said.
Pressed by both Boyles and Corsi on the issue, Evans promised, “I am going to call him. … I’m going to apologize to him, and also [say that I] wish I would have been able to reach him when I read this story.”
“I definitely am going to call him,” Evans promised.
In an interview broadcast on C-SPAN that Evans conducted in Washington, D.C., on Jan. 21, 2009, the day after Obama’s inauguration, Abercrombie also stated that he first remembered seeing Barack Obama Jr. when Obama was old enough to walk around Hawaii as a child, together with his grandfather, Stanley Dunham.
Here is a key section of the C-SPAN interview transcribed:
EVANS: What was the first time you set eyes on Barack Obama?
ABERCROMBIE: Well that, of course, [laughs] was after he was born [laughs]. Barack Sr. had met his mom [Barack Obama Jr.'s mother, Ann Dunham], in a Russian class. She was just scarcely out of high school, really. And, they got married and, with statehood essentially, within a year or so of statehood, Barack Obama was born. Barack Hussein Obama was born.
EVANS: Do you remember him growing up?
ABERCROMBIE: No, I remember him as a little boy, with his grandfather. Because his mother and father separated. That story’s pretty well known. And, the father, Barack Sr., went on to the mainland to go to school, and then back to Kenya. And, his mom went on, married again. In the process, I would see “Little Barry,” as his grandfather called him, Little Barry and his grandfather mostly, all over. They walked everywhere. Stan Dunham, his grandfather, took him everywhere and they met everybody and knew everybody … I mean it’s Hawaii, right? It was easy. You want to be friendly, you want to see people and know people? You can do it. And he [Stanley Dunham] did and Little Barry went with him everywhere.
There is nothing in the C-SPAN interview that suggests specific memories Abercrombie has of noticing the infant Barack Obama Jr.
Nor did Abercrombie seem aware that Ann Dunham left Hawaii with her child some three weeks after the baby’s birth to go to Seattle to attend the University of Washington, and that Ann Dunham did not return to Hawaii with Barack Obama Jr. until after Barack Obama Sr. left the islands to attend graduate school at Harvard in June 1962.
In a interview published by the New York Times on Dec. 24, 2010, Abercrombie distinguished that he did not see Barack Obama Sr. and Ann Dunham at the hospital with their newborn son, but he remembered the couple bringing the baby to social events.
The New York Times did not press Abercrombie to describe any specific social events where he could remember seeing or being with Barack Obama Jr. in Hawaii with the parents.