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Bundy's son: N.Y. Times quote 'out of context'

Posted By Bob Unruh On 04/24/2014 @ 1:10 pm In Front Page,Politics,U.S. | No Comments

Cliven Bundy

A comment by embattled Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy about blacks and slavery was taken out of context by the New York Times, according to Bundy’s son, Ammon Bundy, who told WND in an interview Thursday his father was trying to reach out to the black and Hispanic communities.

“They took what they wanted. They knew when they were there his comments were not racist. He wasn’t able to completely articulate,” Ammon Bundy told WND. “That’s just my dad. He is a very principled person.”

The Times, in a report by Adam Nagourney, said Cliven Bundy, in a daily meeting Saturday with reporters and photographers covering his case, made the comments that critics are calling racist.

“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” Nagourney quoted Bundy saying.

Bundy was recalling public housing projects in North Las Vegas.

“And in front of that government house, the door was usually open and the older people and the kids – and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch – they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.

“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do? They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

Ammon Bundy told WND: “I was there standing right beside my father when he made those comments. He was reaching out to the black community.”

He explained his father was commenting on the fact that while blacks were “in slavery on plantations, now because of the welfare system, they continue to be in slavery.”

“He desires the black community to have freedom,” Ammon Bundy said.

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“Growing up around him, and being beside him, I never once heard him say anything negative about any race,” Ammon Bundy said. “I wish I could say that about everyone else I’ve been around. The black community, the white community, they joke back and forth. My father’s never lowered himself.”

Of course, “his message was taken out of context,” he said.

The point was that the government “has kept them oppressed,” Ammon Bundy said. “They’ve never been given a situation to be able to thrive, get themselves out of slavery.”

He recalled his father’s respect for the black community and his gratitude.

Cliven Bundy was working in Los Angeles during the Watts riots in 1965.

“Everything was in chaos, fires everywhere,” Ammon Bundy told WND, recalling the stories from his father.

“He felt he needed to get back to his hotel. He took the chance and actually got on the freeway,” he said. “He’s driving down this freeway, and these two vehicles full of black men came up on each side.”

Ammon Bundy said his father was afraid at first, but the cars simply stayed beside him until he left the freeway.

“He realized, he felt that they were his guardian angels, actually escorting him through the city,” he said.

The Right Scoop blog was reporting that Cliven Bundy confirmed he is wondering about what’s best for blacks.

“That’s exactly what I said. I said I’m wondering if they’re better off under government subsidy, and their young women are having the abortions and their young men are in jail, and their older women and their children are standing, sitting out on the cement porch without nothing to do, you know, I’m wondering: Are they happier now under this government subsidy system than they were when they were slaves, and they was able to have their family structure together, and the chickens and garden, and the people had something to do? And so, in my mind I’m wondering, are they better off being slaves, in that sense, or better off being slaves to the United States government, in the sense of the subsidies. I’m wondering. That’s what. And the statement was right. I am wondering.”

Bundy, 67, has been in the headlines over the past few weeks for his defiance of the federal government’s demand that he pay grazing fees. The federal Bureau of Land Management responded with an operation to confiscate and sell off his cattle.

Bundy claims that since his ranch operation, run by his family for more than 100 years, was grazing cattle before the BLM existed, his fees should be paid to the state, not Washington. More than 1,000 supporters, including armed militia members, joined Bundy at his ranch in a standoff with federal agents.

The federal agents backed down April 12, released the cattle and left the area.

The Washington Post noted some lawmakers have been supportive of Bundy.

Sen. Dean Heller, R-Nev., however, has distanced himself, saying through a spokeswoman that he “completely disagrees with Mr. Bundy’s appalling and racist statements, and condemns them in the most strenuous way.”

Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., who had suggested Bundy had some valid concerns, said: “His remarks on race are offensive, and I wholeheartedly disagree with him.”

The Times report said the dispute, which was rekindled lately by Sen. Harry Reid’s description of Bundy supporters as “domestic terrorists,” has sparked a nationwide wave of concern over the federal government and its management of Western lands.

In Texas, Attorney General Greg Abbott raised the issue of BLM’s claims to thousands of acres of land along the Red River for which ranchers have been paying taxes.

Nagourney quoted Ivan Jones, 60, a bricklayer who came from California to support Bundy.

“Western states don’t have the control over their land that Eastern states have over their land,” Jones said. “Someone like the Bundys, they have been here for generations, before the BLM was ever created, using this land to graze their animals. And the BLM comes in and changes the rule. A small little rancher trying to make a living and they come in like big bullies.”

Politico reported Fox News host Greta Van Susteren, who had dedicated program time to the Bundy case, said: “Let me make this plain: I condemn what Cliven Bundy said about African-Americans.”

WND reported just days ago an interview radio talk-show host Dianne Linderman did with Bundy on the nationally syndicated “Everything That Matters” show.

On Easter Sunday, he said he respects the federal government, pledging allegiance to the flag.

“But [the government] has its place. It doesn’t have its place in the state of Nevada and … Clark County, and that’s where my ranch is. The federal government has no power and no ownership of this land, and they don’t want to accept that,” he said.

“I don’t stand alone,” he continued, “I have all of the prayers from lots of people around the world, and I feel those prayers. And those prayers take the tremble out of my legs. And I can stand strong and straight. And you know the spirit from our heavenly Father, I seek that every morning on my knees. And he gives me some guidance, and I go forth and I actually feel good. My health is good, my spirit is good and I feel strength. I do, I feel strength, I feel even happiness. And I have no idea where I’m going with this. It’s a day-by-day spiritual thing for me.”

Listen to Dianne Linderman’s entire 18-minute Easter interview with Cliven Bundy:

WND also reported the BLM confirmed some of Bundy’s cattle were killed while government agents were rounding them up.

The BLM said four animals were killed and two died from unspecified causes.

Bundy’s website and a Facebook page were used to post images of dead cattle, damaged corrals and damaged water facilities on the land.

“They had total control of this land for one week, and look at the destruction they did,” family friend Corey Houston told Fox News.

At the time, Fox News reported BLM officials said it needed to destroy “illegal structures” such as water tanks and water lines to “restore” the land. But Fox noted that a court order justifying the operation only granted permission to “seize and impound” cattle.

The plan, under which the BLM paid a Utah wrangler $966,000 to collect Bundy’s cattle and a Utah auctioneer to sell them, fell apart after Utah Gov. Gary Herbert refused to let Bundy’s cattle into his state.

“There are serious concerns about human safety and animal health and well-being, if these animals are shipped to and sold in Utah,” he wrote.

Columnist Barbara Simpson wrote about the standoff: “It wasn’t an innocent confrontation but a heavy-handed, one-sided overkill.”

Simpson said that in “a scene out of a tyrannical government playbook,” the federal government “moved in with armored personnel vehicles and helicopters.”

“Armed men equipped with the latest in weaponry and body armor surrounded the ranch house and outbuildings while comparably armed snipers took their places, at the ready, as they lined up their targets, just in case,” she wrote.

“The targets? Unarmed American citizens on their own land.”

Regarding Bundy’s supposedly racist comments? Watch the video of what he said in context, and then watch the edited video below it and see what the New York Times and Media Matters left out.

Unedited video of Cliven Bundy:

Edited video of Cliven Bundy:

Related columns:

New York Times sting entraps Bundy by Joseph Farah

Why the land belongs to Bundy by Ilana Mercer

Additional reports

Prominent black leader supports embattled rancher

Harry’s war — David Kupelian on what’s really behind the targeting of Cliven Bundy


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