Shipping boxes of aborted baby heads across the country is the best way to get brain and spinal cord tissues to labs intact.
In fact, the issue is apparently so funny to StemExpress CEO Catherine Dyer that a new uncover video has her bursting into laughter over the situation.
Dyer is founder and CEO of StemExpress, a company that worked with Planned Parenthood in the resale of the body parts of unborn babies until it announced it was severing ties only last week.
Her comments were released late Friday after a judge ruled that the undercover investigators who filmed the interview in a public restaurant had a First Amendment right to release the information.
The video was not immediately available, but those who conducted a multi-year undercover investigation of Planned Parenthood’s operations connected to the sale of body parts released a text of the interview.
An excerpt video was released, showing Dyer taking part in the conversation with undercover investigators from the Center for Medical Progress.
See the excerpt:
On the video, she talks about handling multiple “intact cases,” which reportedly refers to fully intact fetal cadavers.
She also laughs and says, “Tell the lab it’s coming.”
The context was that the discussion was about how to ship neural tissues, which are concentrated in the brain and spinal cord.
“It’s so fragile,” the transcript has her saying. “It’s insanely fragile. And I don’t even know – I was gonna say, I know we get requests for neural, it’s the hardest thing in the world to ship.”
The undercover agent from CMP states, “You do it as the whole calvarium [the whole head].”
“Yeah, that’s the easiest way. And we’ve actually had good success with that,” Dyer said.
The “buyer” joked, “Make sure the eyes are closed!”
“Yeah! (laughter) Tell the lab it’s coming!” the transcript had Dyer saying. “They’ll open the box, go, ‘Oh God!’ (laughter) So yeah, so many of the academic labs cannot fly like that, they’re not capable.”
The transcript also has Dyer talking about “intact cases.”
“So yeah, I mean if you had intact cases, which we’ve done a lot, we sometimes ship those back to our lab in its entirety,” Dyer said.
She also said her company was working with “almost triple-digit number clinics” and they still cannot get enough livers for resale.
“So, it’s a lot on volume a little more than what we do. It’s a lot. So, I don’t think you’ll hit a capacity with us anytime in the next 10 years. I think you’ll feel solid with that standpoint. So, I think, with that you’ll feel like doing an agreement with us,” she said.
Dyer founded her multi-million dollar company in 2010. She began with just a $9,000 investment and started StemExpress in her home in El Dorado County.
A 2014 report from Sacramento State University boasting about Dyer’s accomplishments states, “Her first month’s income was $800 – and then the business took off, earning several hundred thousand dollars within 18 months. Dyer predicts that this year the company will double its 2013 revenue.”
According to the university, Dyer hires Sacramento State students for paid summer internships, and they even get college credit for their work at her company.
Dyer recalled her time spent as a teaching assistant for an instructor who taught an anatomy course in Santa Barbara. It was during that time, before she launched StemExpress, that Dyer dissected cadavers for the class.
“I really got comfortable with tissue and organs, and I loved the human body, loved all of it,” she said, according to Sac State’s report. “I saw organ transplant teams come into the ER when a donor had died. The hospital needed someone to assist in organ collection, and I was good at procurement, so they tagged me to assist with the organ transplant teams.
“That’s when I got exposed to organ and tissue collection. That was the first ‘light bulb’ for me to start this company.”
That “light-bulb” moment apparently led to aborted babies’ heads being shipped across the country to researchers.
Ironically, in the new undercover video from CMP, Dyer talks about security.
“The clinics are very guarded, as they should be. Who do they let in their house? They let champions in their house. Right? I think it’s that same concept …”
The video and its comments had been suppressed under a temporary order from Judge Joanne O’Donnell of California’s Superior Court, who on Friday lifted that order.
She found that the First Amendment rights of the Center for Medical Progress outweighed any privacy concerns by StemExpress.
“The First Amendment protects every American’s free speech, regardless of how damaging the truth is for scandal-ridden organizations like StemExpress and Planned Parenthood,” said Freedom of Conscience Defense Fund President Chuck LiMandri. “Our client has the right to expose StemExpress’ role in the potentially illegal sale of aborted babies’ body parts. The court was correct in lifting this gag order, which only served to protect StemExpress’ gruesome business.”
“The American people deserve to know the truth about the hideous industry that buys and sells the hearts, lungs, heads, and livers of unborn babies,” said Life Legal Defense Foundation Vice President of Legal Affairs Catherine Short. “The Center for Medical Progress should not be silenced and StemExpress and Planned Parenthood should not be able to get off the hook when there is credible evidence that they have colluded in numerous illegal activities.”
The judge said she thought the conversation was “confidential” even though it was in a public restaurant, and that the investigators, who made the recording without the knowledge of the StemExpress officials, may have violated a state prohibition on recording such talks.
The judge rejected a claim – at this point in the case – from the investigators that they were investigating the possibility of a crime, so should be exempt from those restrictions.
While the judge said StemExpress possibly “will prevail” on that claim, that “does not entitle plaintiffs to injunctive relief.”
WND reported Planned Parenthood officials have said they may sue over the videos, which have revealed, among other things, an executive negotiating over the prices for those parts since “I want a Lamborghini.”
Planned Parenthood has said it does not break the law and does not profit on the sale of body parts – despite the multiple statements in the videos from Planned Parenthood officials who, in one case, were concerned about being “low-balled.”
The furor created by the videos has stretched across the U.S., and even around the world where answers are being demanded from the abortion provider. Multiple states have begun investigation, several have withdrawn funding from Planned Parenthood, and there’s been a move in Congress develop to withhold more than half-a-billion dollars of taxpayer funds given to the abortionists annually.
Some of those investigations have not resulted in any charges, primarily in states where the organ harvesting program is not operating.
The Los Angeles Times reported that “the recorded conversations and shocking images of fetal tissue have ignited skirmishes across the country … ” and also have drawn out the Planned Parenthood supporters, with one online petition collecting 900,000 signatures and the New England Journal of Medicine publishing essays supporting it.
“Even so,” the Times said, “the latest video – accompanied by a blog post whose headline read, ‘Planned Parenthood aborted baby’s heart still beating in late-term organ harvesting case – is an indication the fight is far from over.”
It was LifeNews that reported that rallies are being scheduled over the weekend at more than 180 cities in 43 states to speaking against the abortion business.
Watch the No. 7 undercover video released by CMP. (Warning: Graphic content):
The first undercover video released by CMP:
See the other five videos that already have been released (more are reportedly coming):
An old story
WND also has reported that as horrific as the videos appear, they should surprise no one, since such practices have been documented for nearly two decades already.
A price list uncovered by a pro-life organization dated June 1998 shows that the price per specimen from a second trimester abortion is $90 fresh and $130 frozen.
Mark Crutcher, whose Life Dynamics organization was a ground-breaker in investigating the abortion behemoth that gets some $500 million annually from U.S. taxpayers, worked on that investigation.
His group reported back in February 2000 how the baby parts market works: “A baby parts ‘wholesaler’ enters into a financial agreement with an abortion clinic in which the wholesaler pays a monthly ‘site fee’ to the clinic. For this payment, the wholesaler is allowed to place a retrieval agent inside the clinic where he or she is given access to the corpses of children killed there and a workspace to harvest their parts.”
He continued: “The buyer – usually a researcher working for a medical school, pharmaceutical company, bio-tech company or government agency – supplies the wholesaler with a list of the baby parts wanted. … when such orders are received … they are faxed to the retrieval agent at the clinic who harvests the requested parts and ships them to the buyer.”
The documentation was provided at that time to Life Dynamics by a worker who left Comprehensive Health for Women, a Planned Parenthood abortion clinic in Overland Park, Kansas.
Among the documents was a “Fee-for-Services” Schedule A, effective June 1998, which outlined a charge of $220 per specimen for first-trimester aspiration abortions and $260 if the baby parts were frozen.
Crutcher’s report, citing Planned Parenthood’s own paperwork, found that one agent sold during February 1996 alone 47 livers, 11 liver fragments, seven brains, 21 eyes, eight thymuses, 23 legs, 14 pancreases, 14 lungs, six arms and one kidney-adrenal gland.
He also sold three orders of blood from the unborn child. The retrieval agent “harvested all of the parts,” the report said, explaining that “in order for the blood of an aborted child to be sold, the dead baby had to be brought to him intact.”
The “specimens,” the report said, would have generated up to about $25,000 in revenue for one month from one retrieval agent at one Planned Parenthood business.
Crutcher reported that the tissue logs reveal that one baby is often chopped up and sold to many buyers.
For example, babies taken from donors 113968 and 114189 were both killed late in their second trimester and cut into nine pieces. By applying the price list, buyers would have been invoiced between $3,510 and $5,070 for these parts, he said.