In yet another revealing video, Obamacare adviser Jonathan Gruber disclosed President Obama himself was part of the discussion about the need to deceive the American people to pass his signature health-care law.

“The problem is it’s a political nightmare, and people say, ‘No, you can’t tax my benefits,” Gruber said in a June 13, 2012, interview with the PBS program “Frontline. ” … So what we did a lot in that room was think a lot about, well how could we make this work.”

Gruber describe Obama as “really a realistic guy.”

“He was, ‘Look, I can’t just do this.’ He said, ‘It’s just not going to happen politically. The bill will not pass. How do we manage to get there through phase-ins and other things?’ And we talked about it. He was just very interested in that topic,” Gruber said.

Gruber is the Massachusetts Institute of Technology economics professor who already has been revealed in several video clips calling the American voting public “stupid” and explaining that the only way to get Obamacare passed was to deceive voters.

Reacting to Gruber’s comments for the first time, Obama said Monday at a news conference in Australia: “The fact that some adviser who never worked on our staff expressed an opinion that I completely disagree with in terms of the voters is no reflection on the actual process that was run.”

Commentator Guy Benson at the blog Hot Air observed the latest unearthed video might indicate why Obama was “so keen on obscuring the nature of his signature law’s taxes.”

“Perhaps because he’d just recently spent months relentlessly hammering John McCain over a proposal to tax health benefits ‘for the first time.’ So he needed MacGruber to swoop in and help craft a strategy of evasion and deflection.”

Benson noted Obama insisted he “never misled the public on Obamacare (which virtually nobody really buys at this point, and for good reason).”

But the video, Benson said, “contains evidence that the president was personally huddling with Gruber on the Obamacare sales pitch, charging him with fashioning accounting tricks that might provide a politically necessary fig leaf.”

“It’s impossible for the White House to just divorce itself from this guy. He was very much their guy. Not only did they furnish Gruber with $400,000 for his services, they made him a leading point person for ‘drafting the specifics’ of the law with Congress,” he wrote.

WND reported another video shows Gruber talking about how smart Obama is:

Gruber says in the video, “Now Barack Obama’s not a stupid man.”

His comment was in the context of Obama knowing that “the American public doesn’t actually care that much about the uninsured.”

That’s why, he said, although the Obamacare legislation was 90 percent about health insurance coverage and 10 percent about cost control, all the American public heard about was the cost control.

Gruber’s praise of the Obama administration’s deceptive maneuvering to pass the law has drawn widespread reaction from Democrats as well as Republicans.

Fox News’ commentator Charles Krauthammer said Gruber’s admissions prove that those who opposed Obamacare were correct all along.

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“This is exactly what conservatives have been saying. … What we’re hearing now is the true voice of liberal arrogance,” Krauthammer said. “They believe this. They believe that the voters are stupid as he said. And they believe they know the right way, they have to lead the masses to the promised land and they can only do it by deception. And that’s what he said openly.”

Krauthammer said the attitude was, “‘We wanted to get the bill and we didn’t care how we did it, so we lied about everything.’

“As Gruber said, had they known that, it never would have passed. They lied about every aspect of this,” Krauthammer said. “But they got away with it.”

In the first video that surfaced, Gruber said, “This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure the CBO did not score the mandate as taxes. If the CBO scores the mandate as taxes, the bill dies.”

He continued to discuss the lack of transparency, which was a “huge political advantage.”

“Basically you know call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever that was really really critical to get the thing to pass.”

His comments:

In a second video, he discussed how the costs were going to be imposed on Americans and said, “The American voters are too stupid to understand.”

See the video:

Then in another, he discussed the “lack of economic understanding” of Americans:

Asked to explain his comments in the videos, Gruber dismissed them as off-the-cuff and said he shouldn’t have made them.

But Fox News commentator Greta VanSusteren noted the repeated statements.

“That’s not off the cuff. That’s a deep-seated view.”

Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo., found that Gruber had been paid $400,000 for his work for the administration, and he suggested a solution.

“He ought to give the money back.”

WND also reported Gruber confirmed the administration knew U.S. workers would lose their job-based health insurance when Obama’s legislation took effect.

“If you like your health-care plan, you can keep it,” Obama said numerous times when pitching the new law.

But by fall 2013, more than 4 million Americans were getting cancellation letters in their mailboxes.

As it turns out, Gruber apparently knew it would happen, comparing U.S. workers losing their insurance to people “falling off a building.”

In a Nov. 13 piece for Time magazine, reporter Kate Pickert wrote: “I’ve talked to Gruber many times over the past six years. He’s a good source because he’s smart, candid and was privy to the Democratic behind-the-scenes thinking and maneuvering that preceded passage of the Affordable Care Act.”

Pickert recalled a particular conversation she had with Gruber: “In 2013, for instance, I asked Gruber if Democrats understood that the ACA would slowly and methodically erode the system under which millions of Americans get health insurance through their jobs. In pitching the ACA, Democrats had been adamant that the law would support and sustain the employer-based system, not erode it.”

Pickert wrote Gruber “knew better and he told me so, likening workers being kicked off job-based health plans to people ‘falling off a building,’ an outcome that architects of the ACA knew was likely and had planned for.”

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