Another Planned Parenthood executive has been caught on video discussing the prices for the bodies of unborn babies, noting that "it's all just a matter of line items" for "intact fetal cadavers" or dissections from them.
It's the fifth video in a series being released by the Center for Medical Progress, which set up a fake company and sent investigators undercover into Planned Parenthood abortion businesses to investigate whether body parts were being sold.
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Under federal law, it's illegal to buy or sell body parts of the unborn.
The latest interview was with Melissa Farrell, of the Planned Parenthood of the Gulf Coast, one of the biggest Planned Parenthood affiliates in the country.
When asked by the investigators about purchasing parts, and whether they could be obtained intact, she explains, "If we alter our process, and we are able to obtain intact fetal cadavers, we can make it part of the budget that any dissections are this, and splitting the specimens into different shipments is this. It's all just a matter of line items."
Troy Newman, of the abortion-fighting Operation Rescue and who is on the board for CMP, said, "The admission that Planned Parenthood abortionists manipulate procedures in order to better harvest organs or even intact late-term fetal cadavers for human experimentation purposes conjures images of H.G. Wells' Dr. Moreau. It is all clearly illegal.
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"Are ethical standards adhered to during these private experiments? Given Planned Parenthood's propensity for unethical, above-the-law arrogance, it is doubtful."
The video also reveals a technician producing from a freezer a bag of remains from an 18-20 week old fetus that was aborted hours earlier. She pours the tissue in a colander and rinses it, then dumped the chunky lumps of flesh into a glass pan.
There, the baby's dismembered remains were inspected. Arms with hands attached and legs with feet were clearly observed, as well as eyeballs still within the orbital pockets.
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The video also reveals discussions of an upcoming National Abortion Federation meeting where Planned Parenthood executives were to present on matters related to "fetal collection."
"This information implicates the National Abortion Federation in the illegal selling of fetal organs," said Newman.
Evidence of alleged NAF involvement comes one day after a San Francisco judge extended a temporary restraining order on videos taken during secretive NAF national meetings, citing NAF's arguments that their meetings are confidential and attendees must sign non-disclosure agreements.
"The NAF knows that if the public understood what really is discussed behind closed doors that there is no public relations firm in existence that could spin that in a favorable light. In order for abortion to continue, the veil of secrecy that conceals horrifying acts from the public must be maintained at any cost," said Newman.
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"We will continue to fight to protect our freedom of speech and freedom of the press. The truth will ultimately come out, no matter how hard the abortion cartel tries to hide it."
Farrell openly discusses how the research department at Planned Parenthood contributes to the "revenue stream" of the abortion business, and says deviating from standard protocols can be considered.
"Anything that we integrate into that procedure, without having you cover the procedural cost, is going to be higher. Right. So anything of a higher gestational age there's more opportunity for complication. There's more administrative time involved. Sometimes the procedures are long, so then anything that we piggyback onto that for collection purposes obviously, would have to reflect the additional time, cost, administrative burden." she said.
CMP spokesman David Daleiden said, "This is now the fifth member of Planned Parenthood leadership discussing payments for aborted baby parts without any connection to actual costs of so-called tissue 'donation.' Planned Parenthood's system-wide conspiracy to evade the law and make money off of aborted fetal tissue is now undeniable."
He continued, "Anyone who watches these videos knows that Planned Parenthood is engaged in barbaric practices and human rights abuses that must end. There is no reason for an organization that uses illegal abortion methods to sell baby parts and commit such atrocities against humanity to still receive over $500 million each year from taxpayers."
Kristan Hawkins, president of Students for Life of America, said, "Once again, these undercover videos show the callousness of Planned Parenthood to eagerly strip away the human dignity of the prenatal child, rip it up (or keep it intact for a higher fee) and sell the baby piece by piece.
"Today’s video also shows without a doubt that Planned Parenthood sells the body parts of aborted babies. Planned Parenthood is also double dipping on costs. The mother pays for the abortion and then the fetal tissue company pays for the baby parts."
Only a day earlier, Judge William H. Orrick, who was nominated to his post by President Obama and has strong financial links to him, having been both a major donor and bundler for Obama's 2008 presidential campaign, extended a protective order for the abortion industry.
Orrick, who had raised at least $200,000 for Obama and donated $30,800 to committees supporting Obama, the Federalist said Public Citizen documented, prevented CMP from releasing videos it acquired by going undercover to the National Abortion Federation and recording comments and conversations there.
Orrick, worried about "people's privacy" and the history of "violence" against abortionists," protected the NAF at least through an Aug. 27 hearing.
After the CMP started releasing its undercover work – four videos already have been made public – the National Abortion Federation was one of two abortion interests to go to court to preemptively try to suppress public airing of their own statements.
As WND reported, NAF, in its court move, claimed it was seeking to protect "the safety and security of our members."
"That security has been compromised by the illegal activities of a group with ties to those who believe it is justifiable to murder abortion providers," said NAF President Vicki Saporta in an announcement about the filing. "CMP went to great lengths to infiltrate our meetings as part of a campaign to intimidate and attack abortion providers."
Saporta provided no support for her claim that CMP is tied to "those who believe it is justifiable to murder abortion providers."
The other case in which statements reportedly obtained by the CMP are targeted for suppression was filed by StemExpress. There, a Los Angeles Superior Court ordered that a hearing be held in a few weeks on whether those can be released.
In response to that move, CMP said, "StemExpress, a for-profit company partnered with over 30 abortion clinics, including Planned Parenthood, to harvest and sell aborted baby parts and provide a 'financial benefit' to Planned Parenthood clinics, is attempting to use meritless litigation to cover-up this illegal baby parts trade, suppress free speech, and silence the citizen press reporting on issues of burning concern to the American public."
StemExpress claimed unfair competition, breach of contract, interference with contractual relations, fraudulent inducement of a contract, receipt of stolen property and invasion of privacy. The complaint explains that after the meeting with undercover videographers in a public restaurant, StemExpress insisted that a confidentiality agreement would be imposed.
StemExpress also said it "offers [the] largest variety of raw material in the industry, as well as fresh (non-frozen) and cryopreserved human primary cells" and that it works with 30 "procurement sites."
It was in an interview with CNN that CMP chief David Daleiden give his view as to why StemExpress was so concerned.
He said, in an interview during which the CNN reporter was combative, that his StemExpress, which partners with Planned Parenthood to dissect unborn babies and remove the most valuable body parts, is trying to suppress "a specific video recording of a meeting with their top leadership where their leadership admitted they sometimes get fully intact fetuses shipped to their lab from the abortion clinics."
"That," he said, "could be prima facie evidence of born-alive infants. That's why they're trying to suppress that and they're very scared of it."
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"Fully intact fetuses" – who logically could not become "specimens" without somehow having first met their demise – could be protected by the Born Alive Infant Protection Act adopted in 2002.
To date, the video investigation has resulted in at least eight states beginning investigations of Planned Parenthood. Several congressional committees are doing the same, and on Monday the Senate narrowly failed to approve a ban on federal money for Planned Parenthood, which promises to keep the fight looming in Washington.
Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia said the videos were just too much.
"I am very troubled by the callous behavior of Planned Parenthood staff in (the) recently released videos," he explained, "which casually discuss the sale, possibly for profit, of fetal tissue after an abortion. Until these allegations have been answered and resolved, I do not believe that taxpayer money should be used to fund this organization."
From statements by Planned Parenthood officials that ranged from "I want a Lamborghini" to discussion about how to salvage certain saleable parts by crushing surrounding parts, the videos are self-explanatory.
An old story
WND also has reported that as horrific as the videos appear, they should surprise no one, since such practices have been documented for nearly two decades already.
One price list uncovered by a pro-life organization dated June 1998 shows that the price per specimen from a second trimester abortion is $90 fresh and $130 frozen.
Mark Crutcher, whose Life Dynamics organization was a ground-breaker in investigating the abortion behemoth that gets some $500 million annually from U.S. taxpayers, worked on that investigation.
His group reported back in February 2000 how the baby parts market works: "A baby parts 'wholesaler' enters into a financial agreement with an abortion clinic in which the wholesaler pays a monthly 'site fee' to the clinic. For this payment, the wholesaler is allowed to place a retrieval agent inside the clinic where he or she is given access to the corpses of children killed there and a workspace to harvest their parts."
He continued: "The buyer – usually a researcher working for a medical school, pharmaceutical company, bio-tech company or government agency – supplies the wholesaler with a list of the baby parts wanted. … when such orders are received … they are faxed to the retrieval agent at the clinic who harvests the requested parts and ships them to the buyer."
The documentation was provided at that time to Life Dynamics by a worker who left Comprehensive Health for Women, a Planned Parenthood abortion clinic in Overland Park, Kansas.
Among the documents was a "Fee-for-Services" Schedule A, effective June 1998, which outlined a charge of $220 per specimen for first-trimester aspiration abortions and $260 if the baby parts were frozen.
Crutcher's report, citing Planned Parenthood's own paperwork, found that one agent sold during February 1996 alone 47 livers, 11 liver fragments, seven brains, 21 eyes, eight thymuses, 23 legs, 14 pancreases, 14 lungs, six arms and one kidney-adrenal gland.
He also sold three orders of blood from the unborn child. The retrieval agent "harvested all of the parts," the report said, explaining that "in order for the blood of an aborted child to be sold, the dead baby had to be brought to him intact."
The "specimens," the report said, would have generated up to about $25,000 in revenue for one month from one retrieval agent at one Planned Parenthood business.
Crutcher reported that the tissue logs reveal that one baby is often chopped up and sold to many buyers.
For example, babies taken from donors 113968 and 114189 were both killed late in their second trimester and cut into nine pieces. By applying the price list, buyers would have been invoiced between $3,510 and $5,070 for these parts, he said.