One of the main figures in a series of undercover videos exposing Planned Parenthood’s baby-parts trade discusses in a new video released Tuesday a plan to pay abortion clinics for “fetal cadaverous specimens.”
Cate Dyer, now CEO of StemExpress, worked for ABR, another company that obtains baby body parts, before she started her own company.
In the ninth video in a series released by the Center for Medical Progress, Dyer talks with CMP’s undercover investigators.
“This is the thing. Quite honestly, I used to go into this argument. So Linda (Tracy) ABR is a not for profit, and um, wasn’t paying any of the clinics, and uh, was funding places in Hawaii for themselves, and all sorts of things,” Dyer said.
“But I would go into clinics and they would say, ‘Oh you’re for profit? And you want to pay us?’
“And I’m like, ‘So I want to pay you, she doesn’t want to.’ And I’m thinking I’m like, ‘We’re trying to give money to you.'”
She continued: “And I said, ‘Right, and I pay tax, just to be clear, that actually donates, ends up funding programs back to you guys. No tax, no payment. Tax and payment.
“And they’d be like, ‘OK, that makes sense.'”
The CMP videos have triggered multiple investigations of Planned Parenthood, including several in Congress and by states.
However, while some funding already has been withdrawn, no charges have been filed over the revelations of Planned Parenthood’s baby body parts trade. The abortion organization has insisted everything it does is legal and proper, and has been telling Congress that the video investigators are the ones who need to be investigated.
But it’s illegal to profit from the sale of baby parts.
The ninth video also features conversations with Katharine Sheehan, the long-time medical director of Planned Parenthood of the Pacific Southwest until 2013 and Perrin Larton, the procurement manager for ABR.
In her instructions to Congress, Planned Parenthood CEO Cecile Richards referenced a California Planned Parenthood affiliate that receives $60 “per tissue specimen” from a tissue procurement organization.
The Center for Medical Progress said it identified Planned Parenthood Pacific Southwest and ABR as the affiliate and TPO referred to in Richards’ letter, based on a process of elimination.
“We now know from Cecile Richards’ letter that $60 per collected tissue specimen is what will ‘get a toe in’ to harvest baby parts at Planned Parenthood Pacific Southwest,” wrote CMP Project Lead David Daleiden.
CMP said: “As multiple tissue specimens often come from a single fetus, $60/specimen can quickly add up to hundreds of extra dollars in revenue per abortion. The sale or purchase of human fetal tissue is a federal felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison or a fine of up to $500,000 (42 U.S.C. 289g-2).”
Perrin Larton, the procurement manager at ABR, described the business and its procedures.
“I literally have had women come in and they’ll go in the OR and they’re back out in three minutes, and I’m going, ‘What’s going on?’ Oh yeah, the fetus was already in the vaginal canal whenever we put her in the stirrups, it just fell out.”
CMP said ABR, founded in 1989 by CEO Linda Tracy, charges $340 per second-trimester fetal tissue specimen.
“Whenever we have a smooth portion of liver, we think that’s good!” said Larton.
“In the twisted world of baby parts trafficking from Planned Parenthood abortion clinics, there are few unbroken rules,” said Daleiden. “After the serious admissions in Planned Parenthood’s letter to Congress last week, it is imperative for lawmakers and law enforcement to act decisively to determine the full extent of Planned Parenthood and their proxies’ lawbreaking, hold them accountable, and stop the taxpayer funding of these barbaric atrocities against humanity.”
WND reported this week that an organization hired by Planned Parenthood to analyze the CMP sting contends the video reports are misleading.
But Fusion GPS concluded that while “cuts, skips, missing tape, and changes in camera angle” were “suspicious,” its analysis commissioned by Planned Parenthood “did not reveal widespread evidence of substantive video manipulation.”
One video shows a Planned Parenthood executive worried about being “low-balled” in the sale of the body parts of aborted babies. She also joked she wanted, “I want a Lamborghini.”
The analysis commissioned by Planned Parenthood said the CMP videos contain “intentional post-production edits,” which means they “cannot be relied upon in official inquiries as a credible record of events unless the record is supplemented by CMP’s original unedited material.”
CMP, however, has released the lengthy, unedited footage that was used to make the produced video presentations.
The Fusion GPS report criticized CMP investigators for using two cameras, and a television producer who watched the videos identified “the use of ominous music, replays, color manipulation, ‘scratch’ effects, strategic display of frame counters and timestamps” to create “gotcha” moments.”
The report commissioned by Planned Parenthood said: “The numerous errors, discrepancies and omissions in the CMP transcripts render them useless as ‘evidence.’ They also cannot be relied upon in official inquiries as a credible text record of what is said in the videos.”
In response, CMP said the “forensic analysis” was nothing more than “a pseudoscientific production by Fusion GPS, a political opposition-research company that has no forensic certifications.”
“While the report, which contains multiple errors, set out to delegitimize CMP’s video evidence, it only provides evidence of the opposite: the report admits that ‘This analysis did not reveal widespread evidence of substantive video manipulation’ and that it ‘shows no evidence of audio manipulation.'”
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In the first undercover video released by CMP, Deborah Nucatola of Planned Parenthood commented on crushing babies. “We’ve been very good at getting heart, lung, liver, because we know that, so I’m not gonna crush that part, I’m gonna basically crush below, I’m gonna crush above, and I’m gonna see if I can get it all intact.”
In the second video, Planned Parenthood’s Mary Gatter joked, “I want a Lamborghini.”
A former StemExpress worker, Holly O’Donnell, said in No. 3 that she fainted in horror when she was asked to process an aborted baby.
In No. 4, Savita Ginde of Planned Parenthood’s Denver clinic said she didn’t want to do a flat fee. “A per-item thing works a little better, just because we can see how much we can get out of it.”
In the fifth, Melissa Farrell of Planned Parenthood’s Houston clinic discusses “intact fetal cadavers.”
The sixth video returns to O’Donnell, who confirms fetal remains are taken for research without patient consent.
The seventh horrifying has the testimony of a Planned Parenthood worker who tapped an aborted infant’s heart and saw it start beating.
And No. 8 has Cate Dyer, CEO of Stem Express, admitting Planned Parenthood sells fully intact aborted babies.
An old story
WND also has reported that as horrific as the videos appear, they should surprise no one, since such practices have been documented for nearly two decades already.
A price list uncovered by a pro-life organization dated June 1998 shows that the price per specimen from a second trimester abortion is $90 fresh and $130 frozen.
Mark Crutcher, whose Life Dynamics organization was a ground-breaker in investigating the abortion behemoth that gets some $500 million annually from U.S. taxpayers, worked on that investigation.
His group reported back in February 2000 how the baby parts market works: “A baby parts ‘wholesaler’ enters into a financial agreement with an abortion clinic in which the wholesaler pays a monthly ‘site fee’ to the clinic. For this payment, the wholesaler is allowed to place a retrieval agent inside the clinic where he or she is given access to the corpses of children killed there and a workspace to harvest their parts.”
He continued: “The buyer – usually a researcher working for a medical school, pharmaceutical company, bio-tech company or government agency – supplies the wholesaler with a list of the baby parts wanted. … when such orders are received … they are faxed to the retrieval agent at the clinic who harvests the requested parts and ships them to the buyer.”
The documentation was provided at that time to Life Dynamics by a worker who left Comprehensive Health for Women, a Planned Parenthood abortion clinic in Overland Park, Kansas.
Among the documents was a “Fee-for-Services” Schedule A, effective June 1998, which outlined a charge of $220 per specimen for first-trimester aspiration abortions and $260 if the baby parts were frozen.
Crutcher’s report, citing Planned Parenthood’s own paperwork, found that one agent sold during February 1996 alone 47 livers, 11 liver fragments, seven brains, 21 eyes, eight thymuses, 23 legs, 14 pancreases, 14 lungs, six arms and one kidney-adrenal gland.
He also sold three orders of blood from the unborn child. The retrieval agent “harvested all of the parts,” the report said, explaining that “in order for the blood of an aborted child to be sold, the dead baby had to be brought to him intact.”
The “specimens,” the report said, would have generated up to about $25,000 in revenue for one month from one retrieval agent at one Planned Parenthood business.
Crutcher reported that the tissue logs reveal that one baby is often chopped up and sold to many buyers.
For example, babies taken from donors 113968 and 114189 were both killed late in their second trimester and cut into nine pieces. By applying the price list, buyers would have been invoiced between $3,510 and $5,070 for these parts, he said.