Getting intact baby heads is "something to strive for," according to a Planned Parenthood abortionist who operates at the abortion behemoth's business in Austin, Texas.
The comment is from Amna Dermish, who told undercover video investigators with the Center for Medical Progress: "I haven't been able to do that yet. This will give me something to strive for!"
And she laughs.
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It comes in the 11th undercover video released by CMP exposing Planned Parenthood's trade in the body parts of aborted babies.
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CMP investigators, posing as representatives of a research company, captured on video conversations with Planned Parenthood executives and related companies in its industry.
Dermish said: "I always try and keep the trunk intact just by [the] function of always trying to aim for the spine to bring it down. … So my aim is usually to get the specimens out pretty intact."
She noted she hasn't been able to get the entire head yet.
But she's trying.
"Usually what I do, if it's a breech presentation, I'll remove the extremities first, the lower extremities (legs), and then go for the spine."
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She continued: "If it's cephalic (head-first), I'll try and get the cal (head) first, but if I'm struggling getting the cal, usually it's a function of how good my dilation is, often times it's hard to get around the cal, especially the 20 weekers are a lot harder versus the 18 weekers."
Dermish admits she was trained by Deb Nucatola, who was caught in an earlier sting video by CMP.
Dermish said she does not use the chemical digoxin to kill the fetus before 20 weeks, CMP noted, "so her feet-first, intact extraction abortions are done on living fetuses."
"Using ultrasound guidance to manipulate the fetus from vertex to breech orientation before extracting the yet-living fetus is a hallmark of the illegal partial-birth abortion procedure (18 U.S.C. 1531)."
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Dermish also affirmed a fetal body part price of about $50, and CMP noted: "The sale or purchase of human fetal tissue is a federal felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison and a fine of up to $500,000 (42 U.S.C. 289g-2)."
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott recently said his state now has "hard evidence" that Planned Parenthood was violating state and federal law.
"Less than four miles away from the Texas state capitol, Planned Parenthood routinely practices barbaric partial-birth abortions on living, late-term fetuses," said CMP Project Lead David Daleiden. "Planned Parenthood's crimes are not just the result of local bad actors, but are tolerated and even encouraged at the highest levels of the national organization. State-level criminal investigations must press charges, and Congress' new select committee must pursue a deep and comprehensive accounting of Planned Parenthood’s atrocities against humanity."
WND has reported the release of the videos, including one in which two members of the European Parliament put the defunding of Planned Parenthood on the agenda in response to the sting investigation.
"Europe is horrified by the scandalous harvesting and selling of human body parts allegedly for profit by Planned Parenthood in the USA," said Miroslav Mikolasik of Slovakia, chairman of a parliamentary working group.
Planned Parenthood, he pointed out, is active in the European Union and receives extensive funding from the European Commission.
Parliament member Alojz Peterle of Slovenia said it is "unacceptable that an organization which appears to be breaching human rights, ethical standards and laws is operating in the EU and is also being funded by EU taxpayers."
"I consider their activities as a serious offense over the first article of the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union, which talks about the inviolability of human dignity," he said.
Earlier, Planned Parenthood President Cecile Richards informed the National Institutes of Health that, after denying it was doing anything wrong, Planned Parenthood decided not to accept payments any more for harvesting organs of aborted babies.
But the procurement of body parts will continue.
"The participation by a handful of our affiliates in supporting women who choose to make fetal tissue donation has always been about nothing other than honoring the desire of those women and contributing to life-saving research and cures," Richards wrote to federal officials.
"In order to debunk the disingenuous argument that our opponents have been using – and to reveal the true political purpose of these attacks – our federation has decided, going forward, that any Planned Parenthood health center that is involved in donating tissue after an abortion for medical research will follow the model already in place at one of our two affiliates currently facilitating donations for fetal tissue research."
She said that particular affiliate "accepts no reimbursement for its reasonable expenses – even though reimbursement is fully permitted under the 1993 law. ... Going forward, all of our health centers will follow the same policy, even if it means they will not recover reimbursements permitted by the 1993 law," she said.
The videos have captured Planned Parenthood officials haggling over the price of baby body parts. A number of them talked about being paid per item, how they could adjust abortion procedures to salvage requested body parts and how they could create a revenue stream from such transactions.
One executive said she didn't want to be "low-balled," joking, "I want a Lamborghini."
Two different expert investigations have concluded that the videos are substantially accurate.
Planned Parenthood is the abortion industry's largest operator in the United States, doing about 327,000 abortions annually and getting paid more than $500 million in taxpayer funds.
Federal law allows reimbursement for costs of tissue donation but no profiting. Federal law also prohibits the adjustment of any abortion procedure to salvage body parts.
The videos show Planned Parenthood executives indicating that both of those standards were being violated.
Congress has proposed legislation to withdraw taxpayer funds, and four congressional committees are now investigating Planned Parenthood.
Several states already have moved to cut Planned Parenthood funding.
WND reported a congressional panel has subpoenaed and received all of the uncut videos that were obtained by the CMP.
The subpoena was issued by the House Oversight and Government Reform Subcommittee on Health Care, Benefits and Administrative Rule.
WND also reported when a forensic analysis confirmed the videos "are authentic and show no evidence of manipulation." The analysis was delivered to the Alliance Defending Freedom, which hired Coalfire Systems Inc. to analyze the "raw video and audio data files" that have been creating havoc for America's largest abortion provider.
Planned Parenthood has contended the videos were manipulated.
However, Coalfire's conclusion was consistent with a previous analysis commissioned by Planned Parenthood.
Fusion GPS, hired by Planned Parenthood, concluded that while "cuts, skips, missing tape, and changes in camera angle" were "suspicious," its analysis commissioned by Planned Parenthood "did not reveal widespread evidence of substantive video manipulation."
One video shows a Planned Parenthood executive worried about being "low-balled" in the sale of the body parts of aborted babies. In another, a Planned Parenthood executive explains the availability of "intact" fetal bodies. Another revealed an abortion executive talking about altering procedures to obtain the human organs that researchers would want.
One video features a former abortion worker explaining how she was told to remove the brain from an aborted child whose heart was still beating.
In the first undercover video released by CMP, Deborah Nucatola of Planned Parenthood commented on crushing babies.
"We've been very good at getting heart, lung, liver, because we know that, so I'm not gonna crush that part, I'm gonna basically crush below, I'm gonna crush above, and I'm gonna see if I can get it all intact," she said.
See the first video:
In the second video, Planned Parenthood's Mary Gatter said, "I want a Lamborghini."
See her comments:
In the fifth, Melissa Farrell of Planned Parenthood's Houston clinic discusses "intact fetal cadavers":
The seventh video has the testimony of a Planned Parenthood worker who tapped an aborted infant's heart and saw it start beating.
And No. 8 has Cate Dyer, CEO of Stem Express, admitting Planned Parenthood sells fully intact aborted babies.
WND has reported on the videos as they have been released. They are posted online.