Trump doubles down, goes Savage on Ben Carson

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Days after criticizing Donald Trump for his 95-minute rant against Ben Carson, talk-radio host Michael Savage had the real-estate mogul on his show to explain why he was attacking a fellow Republican instead of the likely Democrat nominee, Hillary Clinton.

Savage, who affirmed he still strongly supports Trump's bid for the White House, asked if Republican candidates should agree to attack Clinton and President Obama instead of each other.

"She was a terrible secretary of state, maybe the worst ever. But, I have to beat 15 people," Trump said, referring to his Republican rivals.

"I have to win before I can get to her," he said. "Believe me, I think she's going to be easy. She had such a bad record."

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At a rally in Fort Dodge, Iowa, last Thursday night, Trump seized on Carson's claim in his biography that he had a "pathological temper" that caused him to attack his mother with a hammer and try to stab a friend. Trump questioned Carson's veracity and said he has a "pathological disease" that can't be cured, much as there's no cure for a child molester.

On his show Friday, Savage called Trump's criticism of Carson a repeat of Newt Gingrich's relentless attacks on eventual nominee Mitt Romney in the 2012 campaign, "which resulted in Obama rising to the presidency."

Responding to Trump's defense of his harsh criticism of Carson on "The Savage Nation" Wednesday, Savage said: "But it was so brutal. I mean, you must have been a heckuva street fighter in Queens, because you know how to get a guy on the ground and really let him have it, Donald."

Savage told Trump his point is that "a lot of people love you ... and they're not going to vote for Carson," but Republican candidates shouldn't fall into "the media's trap" and, instead, should "always turn the question back to Hillary's failures as secretary of state."

"Mike, I know what you said, and I know you and I have a great relationship, but I have to lay out facts," Trump explained. "I'm doing very well in the polls, as you know. I'm number one; but he's sort of number two. I think he's losing a lot of steam, if you want to know the truth."

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Trump said Carson had "a very bad week," because he's "having a hard time learning about foreign policy."

Moreover, he said, "all I did was quote things in his book, because he said he has a pathological disease and a lot of other things."

Trump said that after his rant against Carson, there were "a couple of other people" who also counseled "you don't have to say that."

"But I felt I had to get out the word, because people didn't know," he said.

Savage complimented Trump for being willing to return to his show, saying it demonstrates he is able to take criticism.

'Demean ISIS'

Asked what he would do with ISIS, Trump said: "I would hit them so hard, that you wouldn't even believe it. We would hit them every which way."

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He said the U.S. and its allies should "demean" and humiliate ISIS, taking issue with media calling the suspected organizer of the attack "the mastermind."

It doesn't take a "mastermind," Trump said, to walk into a place where nobody has guns and shoot everybody.

"We have to demean these people," Trump said. "We can't call them masterminds. They are savages. They are just savages."

Savage noted that in Word War II, the allies launched a propaganda campaign against the Nazis and the Japanese empire that focused on humiliating the enemy.

Put refugee in Syrian 'safe zone'

Asked about the Middle East refugee problem, Trump affirmed his previous vow to deport the Syrian Muslim refugees Obama is allowing into the United States.

"I'm just putting people on notice that if they come, they are going to be deported," Trump said. "Now, it's a very sad thing. And I have a bigger heart than any of them, but we have no choice."

He pointed to an $18 trillion debt and many other domestic problems.

He affirmed he advocates building a "safe zone" in Syria for the refugees and noted the Muslim-majority Gulf States are not participating.

"You look at the money they make, with the oil," Trump noted. "They said, Why should we when the dumb United States and other countries will do it?"

Trump pointed out that in his previous interview with Savage, he said the coalition against ISIS should bomb the source of ISIS wealth, its oil assets.

"Now, about two days ago, they started hitting the oil," Trump said. "Does anybody say, 'Thank you Donald'? I'm the only one. I was taking abuse. They said, 'That's such a horrible thing to say.' But now they're hitting the oil."

Obama not evil just incompetent

Savage asked Trump what he thought Obama's real reason is for "flooding" America with Syrian refugees when more than half of the governors have rejected the plan.

"Some people say it's evil intentions; I think personally it's incompetence," Trump replied.

Before the current crisis, he said, it was virtually impossible for Christians from Syria to enter the United States, but "if you were a Muslim in Syria, it was one of the easiest ways to come into the United States."

"The Christians are having their heads cut off, and those people found it almost impossible to get in, before this mess we have now," he said.

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