(BUSINESS INSIDER) – President Donald Trump said in a recent interview with TIME Magazine that he believes his core base of supporters is so solid, he doesn’t think he needs to reach out to swing voters at all in 2020.

“I think my base is so strong, I’m not sure that I have to do that,” he told TIME when asked if his campaign had a strategy in place to win over Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents, including people who voted for Democrats in last year’s congressional midterm elections.

The TIME piece dove into the mammoth operation behind Trump’s re-election campaign strategy, which revolves around aggressive fundraising, a strong digital ad operation, and Trump’s signature rallies, at which he fires up the crowd by touting his accomplishments and slamming his detractors.

Despite Trump shrugging off the idea of reaching out to Democratic or independent voters who may not have voted for him before, Trump campaign officials told TIME that the campaign still plans to reach out to American-African voters in competitive states like Florida and North Carolina to tout the administration’s work passing the First Step Act, a criminal justice reform bill.

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